Great rebuttal to the vegans!

I agree that what we need is high quality grass fed meat from sustainable farms. When I limit my consumption of meat I get sick. I don't know how people stick with a vegan diet for years (or weeks for that matter).

You know, Dr. Mercola is a big supporter of nutritional typing and he says one should eat for their nutritional type,so that would explain why some people get weak and sick when they don't consume the food they were meant top eat!! ( and also why others get sick when they consume what they shouldn't). Meat should be grass fed from reputable farms!

Can we just stop the vegan versus carnivore bashing already ?!?!

Let's get down to FACTS please.

Vit B-12 deficiency is almost as widespread in meat eaters as it is in Vegans. It really has more to do with the ability of our body , via our intestines and intrinsic factor, not being able to ABSORB enough Vit B-12 .

As for the guy who geta sick if he doesn't eat meat. Hmmmm ?
"Sick" in which way ? From NEED ? or from WITHDRAWAL ??

Folks never seem to talk about how Meat eaters go through a WITHDRAWAL from an addiction to BLOOD when they stop eating Meat/Flesh.

Now THAT would be an interesting topic for you, Dr. Douglass !

GOD BLESS AMERICA... and GOD BLESS US ALL !

Dr. Douglass may be curt and blunt with vegan, but he's right. I hope vegans will take the time to read 'Soy Alert' and 'Letter to Vegetarians' on the front page of the non-profit Weston A. Price Foundation (www.westonaprice.org) for their own good and health.

I think they will find the answer there and how saturated fat does not cause heart disease and how soy is anti-nutrient and causes many problems.

I used to eat soy and have a vegetarian diet and it was awful. Now I only eat meat, eggs, or fish unless it's organic, grass-fed, wild caught, etc.

You can read a similiar story that I had by Chris MasterJohn about vegetarianism here: http://www.cholesterol-and-healt...

Hope this helps...

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I've been a lacto-vegetarian most of my life, since 1974 when I was starting my sophmore year in high school, (that was also when I came into my own as a very competitive aerobic athlete, and gave up contact sports). More importantly it coincided with destined spiritual awakening. For me not easting meat is a choice to live life on a higher spiritual frequency, but I'm also convince its much healthier. The lowest times in my life were during a few bad years when I regressed by down the food chain from first eating eggs, fish, chicken, and when I did eat beef it knocked me out, my body couldn't handle it and the vibration was very heavy and course.

You see, I recognize myself more as a soul taking a seat in a body, than I do as a physical organism. I pay attention to the range of nutrients to maintain this temple of God, but if I miss a few nutrients to avoid the heavy karma and weight of taking in the suffering of the murdered animal into my body, I don't seem to be having a problem living with that.

I eat very little soy, only tofu occasionally if I'm eating out, same with so called soy burgers or "garden burger," which are often the only items on the menu for me if I'm with a group of people at a restaurant. I don't like the feeling from these foods either. Part of the problem is that soy, like corn, to my knowledge seems to be one of the most likely to be genetically modified foods there are.

Reading discourse in which you seem to take pride in differing from vegans to the point of ridiculing, by calling them greenis andsaying things like using crayons, to me seems very shortsighted, if not childish for someone with an online presence. It reminds me of people like Ann Coulter whose life mission seems to be criticizing people she conceives of as "liberals," like they are the enemy and why the world is a mess. So I just choose to ignore her.

In my life I choose not to alienate or maliciously criticize anyone. I only wish to communicate sincerely and if that isn't useful then say no more.

I've been receiving your information in my mailbox because I did find some articles about the admirable range of health issues to be interesting and at times enlightening. But now I'm sorry to say that you have alienated me and I no longer wish to be exposed to language like yours.

I hope this helps you mature in public relations.

Bye.

I get sick when I eat meat.

Yes...
Eating TOO MUCH soy has a correlation with thyroid problems.
But...
HEALTHY Vegetarians and Vegans do NOT eat much - if any - Soy products to get their Protein.

Most soy grown in the USA is Genetically Modified (GMO).
Unadulterated soy that has not been modified, is much healthier than GMO soy. But no one should be eating a lot of soy.

Soy is processed and used in this country as a Meat SUBSTITUTE
and made into little MEAT-look-a-likes like burgers and chicken.
That is because we, as a culture, are used to Burgers and Hot Dogs and Bacon as the main food on our plates, with maybe a little dab of Vegetables on the side.

Healthy Vegetarians eat and partake of the ABUNDANCE and VARIETY of Fresh Vegetables, Whole Grains, Fresh Fruits, Beans, Legumes, and Seeds and Nuts that this Good Earth supplies us with. These foods contain ample PROTEIN, folks !

BILLIONS of people in the world live on and thrive on a Vegetarian and/or Vegan diet.

No one NEEDS to eat animal Meat/Flesh and blood to be Healthy,
no matter what your body type is. Some body types just need
a higher percentage of Protein in their diets than other body types.

America has the Highest rate of Heart Disease in the world.
We also eat more Animal products than most of the world
(ie. MEAT, Dairy, etc..).

As for the growing (excuse the pun) obesity epidemic in our country.... take a look at CORN SYRUP in our processed foods.
Processed foods used to be sweetened with good old fashioned refined cane sugar - which is bad enough - but the body AT LEAST recognized what it was and knew what to do with it.

Now most of our processed foods contain corn syrup from Genetically Modified (GMO) Corn, that is so processed chemically
to the point that the body does not recorgnize what it is and does not know what the heck to do with it. Therefore, it messes up our Insulin levels, our Liver, etc... and we store it as Fat.

The animals in this country, even if grass fed, are pumped with Antibiotics that you end up ingesting when you eat their flesh.

Grain fed cows have all sorts of "stuff" added to their feed, including bits and pieces of other cows ! Cows/cattle are NOT carnivores and are certainly NOT supposed to be CANNIBALS !
Cows are naturally VEGAN ! So their meat/flesh is created and metabolised from VEGETABLE grass and grain protein.

Interesting .....

7 years as a lacto-ovo veggie and the rest eating some meat -- always the most healthy when avoiding sugar and starch. Never had a withdrawal from blood! Almost all of the blood is drained out of meat before we consume it by the way.

Like some of you have said, just listen to your own body, and don't be afraid to adjust and change. Religion can help guide our food choices, but just because my religion my not agree with yours doesn't mean I'm not healthy (and vice versa).

I love articles with lots of comments, but these are sprinkled with some very not-true "facts". There is so much mis-information about health out there, one really has to search for the true scientific facts (basic biology) to see if an article (written by a Doctor or not) are based in science. Sometimes hard for me to get past the emotional aspect of food.

Thank you Dr. Douglass for trying to get some facts out there for us in your articles. I'd say it gets frustrating sometimes!

Always learning something new about what I already though I knew...

Dr. Douglass comments about the Soy beans are filled with sarcasm, and I wonder why. As a Doctor he should be more professional and less personal. What is going here, This man has turned me off to any thing he has to say, It is ok to imform the public and even to disagree with the vegan community, but to take it to a sarcastic mean level? there is something really wrong here.
Mean Spirited comments. I am not a vegan I don't think I could give up meat entirely.

Dr. Douglas seems more interested in maintaining his image as a wild maverick renegade kind of guy than he does in being credible. His constant sarcastic tone has become tiresome and irritating. His ham-fisted berating of "hippies" alienates many of the people who might be most interested in his anti-Big-Pharma views, costing him valuable support. And I can REALLY do without his politicizing, which sounds like he is coming from somewhere to the right of a Teabagger crackpot--- attacking the President, the administration, health-care reform, climatologists, etc. Lately, some days the newsletter seems like one big ugly scarefest from Dr. Feelgood. If I took it all seriously, I would be afraid to get out of bed or leave the house some days. But I see he always has the energy to hawk some products or his newsletter.

Dr. Douglass, congratulations, you have slowly but steadily morphed from a sometimes amusing 'wild and crazy guy' into 'irritating old fart.' It's a shame because you could probably be helping a lot more people if you could keep a civil tongue, lose the narcissism and stick to the medical matters at hand.

In reply to Anonymous 07/05/10 and their claims

"The animals in this country, even if grass fed, are pumped with Antibiotics that you end up ingesting when you eat their flesh".
While I am unable to comment on practices in your country, I am sure, no grass fed cattle producer uses antibiotics unless they are absolutely necessary for the welfare of the animal.

As a small cattle farmer in Australia I can personally assure you we take the matter of clean / green uncontaminated meat very seriously in Australia and have very strict birth to plate tracability of all animals with producer declarations of feed and treatments and large scale testing of product for compliance. YOU CAN BUY AND EAT AUSTRALIAN GRASS FED BEEF WITH CONFIDENCE!

"Grain fed cows have all sorts of "stuff" added to their feed, including bits and pieces of other cows ! Cows/cattle are NOT carnivores and are certainly NOT supposed to be CANNIBALS !'

THEY DO ADD "STUFF" but it is usually esential minerals and nuitrient for the animals. (supliments like many people take)
It has long been banned by laws in Australia to feed any animal matter to livestock so again you can EAT AUSTRALIAN GRASS FED BEEF WITH CONFIDENCE!

"Cows are naturally VEGAN ! So their meat/flesh is created and metabolised from VEGETABLE grass and grain protein."

They are, but any animal will seek out minerals they lack and will eat mineral rich clay or chew bones they find if they lack the mineral in their diet.
Like any living thing a balance of the correct minerals and vitamins in their diet is necessary for healthy development and living. To someone who is starving anything edible is good food.
Meat and vegetables are a natural dietary intake for human beings in a normal living situation.

A vegan diet has been shown to reverse diabetes and other health issues. See the Physicians' Committee for Responsible Medicine. Soy is not good for people, but neither is meat. B12 should be supplemented (methylcobalamin is better than cynocobalamin).

Humans have a short digestive tract, as do other herbavores, and also our teeth indicate that we are not made to be meat eaters. Compared to monkeys, our teeth are most like Spider monkeys, who eat a plant based diet, no meat.

I LOVE Dr. Douglass!!! He is right 99%! He is wise in politics and FOOD! If you are the product of Main Stream PR, or the propaganda media, and the believers of the Big Pharma and theirs main stream agents (now days doctors), you will never understand Dr. Douglass! You are just an average Joe, who walk through the "wide gate which leads to hell". Thank God, there are still about 25% thinkers in this nation, who not allow theirs brain to be destroyed!
Think about veggies! I love them or better say I would love to have them, but there are no real veggies and fruits any more!
Think of radiation! Pasteurization! GMO! Herbicides !Because the BIG AGRA business, filthy food handling, everything radiated!
No more good Almonds and any kind of nuts! All stripped from nutrition! I love ALL KINDS OF NUTS, but if no value? Just to stuff my stomach? Become fat and diabetic from useless volume?
Homogenized and pasteurized dairy has everything except MILK! I love MILK, but only REAL unadulterated MILK!
In the BIG AGRA, and Food Inc. no more natural food! If one want to eat such, must be wealthy, and away out from the supermarkets!

This is why the "Douglass Diet" is the most simple! Healthy for you and for your valet! I buy Organic Grass and hay fed cow!
I eat every part of it, so it cost me $1.60 per pound! My dog eats the bones! I do not eat the skin, scull and the hair, but eat all organs!!!!
I was diabetic and I beat it! Meat and meat fat, herbal diabetic formula, never low fat alternative in anything, low carbs (no bread, white rice), No sugar intake at all! I was on 80-90 units of Insulin a day, and now slowly tapered back to 16 units per day!
No pills, except supplements! I'm never hungry! Fat is a great source of energy!

God is GREAT! So does the Wise doctor Douglass!